Gays & Lesbians ARE going to hell – Duck Dynasty Style

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In case you have not already heard, there has been a recent controversy between the TV show “Duck Dynasty” and their host A&E. A&E has decided to suspend Phil Robertson indefinitely from the show, one of Duck Dynasty’s beloved stars, for stating that homosexual behavior is sinful during an interview with GQ magazine.

Read the entire interview here. I recommend reading the whole interview before jumping on the Phil-bashing band wagon.

There are so many sides to this story I want to address, that I do not even know where to begin.

First things first:

Lets be honest for a minute, please. If you’re gay, you are gay.

I should begin with saying, I actually am not an avid Duck Dynasty follower and I haven’t even seen a full episode of the show. I have seen a few short videos of Phil’s testimony, though, on I am second. I do see all the Duck Dynasty gear in almost every store I walk in, so I have gathered the show is quite popular. After looking into all of the hype over the past month, I have come to the conclusion the Robertson family seems to be made up of good people, and they are quite funny I have to add. I will probably go back and watch all of the seasons now, to see what I have missed.

Now on to the pressing issue.

Did Phil Robertson blatantly state that all GLBT’s (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender)  are going to hell? Did he, in fact, include in his interview some of the “vilest and most extreme statements uttered against LGBT people?” Some have  gone as far as stating, “He (Phil) clearly knows nothing about gay people…

I want to break this down to see if there is any support for the offense so many are taking against Phil’s statements.

To start, let me address one of the most common things I keep reading. Some people are under the notion that Phil basically said being gay is a sin and they are going to hell for being that way. Phil was simply asked what he viewed as sinful and paraphrased Corinthians.

“9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” -1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Here, Phil does not paraphrase what he thinks is sin, he paraphrases what the Bible and God say are sin. Phil believes in the Bible, but the words in context are not his original thoughts. Contrary to what people want to acknowledge, the Bible is very clear about what is considered sin, all throughout, but all sin is considered equal to God.

And here is where I need to be clear: We are all sinners, and yes, that means me too. I struggle with sin every day, but when you come before God and repent with a sincere heart, God graciously forgives. However, if you are knowingly committing sin and do not repent from your ways, then no, you do not inherit the Kingdom of God. Again, those are not even my original thoughts, they are in the Bible!

One thing I am having a hard time understanding is if you are a GLBT and do not agree with the Bible saying homosexuality is a sin and do not identify yourself as a Christian believer, then why is it offensive to be told you are going to a hell you do not believe in? Now, if you are a Christian who is gay and find it offensive when told your lifestyle is sinful then,

  1. You need to realize you are more than likely being convicted by the Holy Spirit, not the person delivering the truth – no matter how they deliver it.
  2. You already know what God considers sinful and this just so happens to be your weakness. Thankfully, God is gracious and patient with us all.
  3. There is no excuse for Christians to rate sin on a scale from 1 to 10, so stand firm in knowing your sin and my sin are equal in God’s eyes, but repentance is still key.

Final decision: No, Phil Robertson did not condemn homosexuals to hell. He even stated for GQ, “…the Robertson family really believes strongly that if the human race loved each other and they loved God, we would just be better off. We ought to just be repentant, turn to God, and let’s get on with it, and everything will turn around.”

Moving On

Whether you have seen every episode or only parts of some, you quickly realize Phil Robertson is an honest, outspoken man. He is pretty straight to the point and does not beat around the bush. This being said, he was pretty open in his statement about why he prefers women over men.

“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.” -Phil Robertson  

Here is where I have to laugh.

The dude literally used the English words for female and male body parts and that is considered “vile” and “extreme”? He said why he would prefer a vagina over an anus – that is it. He didn’t go into explicit detail or paint an obscene picture. Sometimes, people need to just accept a statement for what it is and not run off with it.

The GLAAD organization complained that Phil’s statement was “outdated” and “stereotypical.” Lets be honest for a minute, please.

If you’re gay, you are gay.

Lets just call it what it is, it is not stereotyping. As for being outdated, the Merriam-Webster Dictionary still defines gay as, “sexually attracted to someone who is the same sex.” So what? Phil doesn’t understand why a man would prefer another man over a woman; he is straight, what do you expect? This being said, I feel confident in saying, the GLAAD group got a little trigger happy with their statements. Phil was not “pushing” his beliefs on the GLBT community in hopes to slander their way of living.

“I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity.” – Phil Robertson

Final decision: No, Phil did not use some of the most vile and extreme statements against the GLBT community. He used modern English words to explain why he would prefer a woman over a man. Sometimes it is better to take a step back, take a deep breath, and see things for what they really are.

Moving on – Again.

The last statement I would like to address is the fact that the GLAAD organization claims Phil, “clearly knows nothing about gay people…” 

I think the  issue here is people like this assume Phil knows nothing about gay people, when in actuality this had nothing to do with the initial interview with GQ. He was asked what he considered sinful, not what he understood about the community as a whole. We also need to open our eyes to the fact that Phil did not quote the Bible to say homosexuality is the ONLY sin. The Bible verse he was paraphrasing lists multiple things God considers sin. I don’t see the murderers in prison in an up rise because Phil Robertson thinks their actions were sinful.

Come on guys, I think we need to be a little more rational when it comes to controversial topics, but especially this one in particular.

Final decision: None of us know how much or how little Phil understands about the gay community. If that were the actual question I am sure Phil would not hold back his knowledge.

Final-Final decision:

Here are some of my concluding thoughts:

  • A&E has the right to air the shows they see fit. Phil was under a contract with them and if they feel he is not representing their network effectively, then yes, it is their right to take him off the show. This is fine, but what I think followers find confusing is Phil Robertson has never hid who is and has always stood strong in his beliefs. This holds true for the Duck Dynasty family as a whole. A&E knowingly allowed the show on their network, open to the fact that the family’s lives are contrast to the norm. Even though duck hunting is their passion, God is what they center their lives around. My question is this: Did A&E think they would be able to “edit” the family’s religion and think that would go unnoticed? And second, that is great that A&E supports the GLBT community, but why are they so quick to dump Phil Robertson for supporting his beliefs?
  • Lets keep in mind, Phil Robertson’s identity is not rooted in the A&E network. This dude has a way bigger calling in his life and more important things to do! I would like to think he has not lost any sleep over this issue.
  • Lastly, no matter your stance on this issue, no matter your lifestyle, and no matter how many times someone has misrepresented the Christian community, Christians LOVE gays! If you think other wise then I am sorry to tell you, but just because an extremest told you you were going to hell for being gay does not mean all Christianity is condemning you to hell. Like wise for Christians, just because there are extreme supporters for the gay community, they are not bad people. They are loving and should be treated in a God honoring way.

Remember, lets Live.Love.Learn. from each other and do it in a loving way!

 

“And above all things have fervent love for one another, for love will cover a multitude of sins.” -1 Peter 4:8 NKJV

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14 Comments

  1. Nivaldo

    December 21, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Jordana, very good your text. Here in Brazil we are very concerned that the offensive against Christian values ​​occurring in the U.S., a country that prospered under the grace of God. What will the rest of the world then?
    May the Lord protect us.

    • Jordan

      December 22, 2013 at 4:53 am

      Nivaldo – Thank you for your kind words. I too, am concerned for our country as we continually try to push God out of every area. The more we turn from the values our country once thrived on, the more conflict we will see, ultimately leading the end of time.

  2. Mark Twain

    December 21, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    The gay part of his diatribe was not even the most disturbing to me; I felt he was acting
    foolish, smug and trying to be funny. Of course it fell short by 1000000 miles.

    What was extremely horrendous was/is his “Jim Crow Happiness Denial”. I don’t know any real
    Christians who think like him on that one; in fact I don’t know any real Christians who
    judge gays enough to publicly advise “They are not going to enter the Kingdom Of God”.

    Just appears you and I have a different interpretation of what our Bible teaches. And that’s
    okay with me.

    Sincerely,

    MT

    • Derek

      December 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm

      You don’t know any real Christians “who judge gays enough to publicly advise ‘They are not going to enter the Kingdom of God.’”??? — you are exactly the type of person that this entire article is about. The type of person who takes a statement way out of context, just because it is a controversial issue.

      There is no ‘interpretation’ of the Bible that dismisses sin, so quite frankly, it doesn’t matter what version of the bible you read, what interpretation you have, or if you read it upside down with a banana in your mouth — it says the same thing. And that is the part you are missing. Homosexuality is clearly amongst the list of sins, and like Jordan said, that doesn’t make their sin any worse than someone else’s. It is no worse of a sin than un-forgiveness, hatred, lying, cheating, stealing, etc. The Bible is black and white. The sin can still be forgiven, and they are freely welcome into the Kingdom, so long as they repent with a sincere heart.

      This issue is not for us to judge, but yes, we ARE called and commissioned to spread the word of God and make disciples of the nations. So, the ‘real’ Christians you talk about shouldn’t leave out, ignore, or dismiss parts of the Bible for someones feelings.

      If I were gay or lesbian, honestly, I would be more offended if I got to the end of my life and no one ever told me the truth of grace, mercy, repentance and forgiveness. I would rather live a life of repentance, no matter the sin, than refuse to acknowledge scripture for what it is. Also — just to let you know, I had several friends growing up who were gay and/or lesbian, and they have since repented of that lifestyle and changed their lives. It is a conscious choice to take up your cross and follow Jesus.

    • Jordan

      December 22, 2013 at 4:50 am

      MT – thank you for responding. I’m not sure I understand why it came across that he was dismissing the trials of blacks or anything of the sort. I felt like he was saying at that time in his life he was dirt poor and was treated similarly to a black person. He said he was even beside them picking cotton because he was white trash. We don’t know what those people were like that he worked along side with, ya know? He wasn’t a Christian then – maybe them singing hymns in the fields looked like happiness to him? I really don’t know all the answers to why he thinks the way he does, but my point was, people are quick to take a public figure and run off with their words and make things look worse than they really are.

  3. justn

    December 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    you forgot the part where he said homosexuality is a precursor to bestiality, and then compared it to terrorism.

    look, you can say god is loving and merciful all you want, but if he burns most of his beloved children alive for eternity for not following silly, outdated, often superfluous, archaically superstitious laws (including thought crimes) then he’s not loving. he’s a monster.

    you know why? because it’s not our labels that defines us, it’s our actions.

    in the same way, you can try and excuse his comments by saying, “that’s not HIS thoughts, it’s just the bible!” well, they’re still discriminatory, they’re still intolerant, and he’s still in full support of inequality. and you know what? he can decide for himself what he believes. if he’s chosen to believe in a book that tells him that gay people will go to hell, then he supports that message, which means they ARE his thoughts. if they weren’t, he wouldn’t be a fundamentalist, would he? he’d be a cafeteria christian like most americans, or better yet, non-religious.

    i mean how good can your religion possibly be if you have to shimmy yourself away from association with the putrid message it spews forth? here’s the bottom line: this is the 21st century, jordan. not the 1950′s. so if you have heinous opinions like ‘gays deserve to be tortured beyond human comprehension for all of eternity’ and you actually say them out loud in public, then no matter how nicely you say them or whether or not you claim to be ‘leaving the judging up to god,’ you’re going to face serious ridicule, because talking about discriminatory beliefs isn’t socially acceptable, nor should it be. it’s on par with racial superiority. it has nothing to do with free speech, it has to do with the fact that you’re an asshole so people (including employers) are going to treat you like one.

    fundamentalist christianity is unethical, illogical, scientifically false, and culturally backwards – it exalts divisive, dehumanizing, and immoral values, it halts human progress, and it has caused innumerable deaths and tortures throughout history. don’t like it? then stop being a christian. tigers don’t change their stripes, and the way this article excuses such a statement is a perfect example of it.

    “what do you consider sin?” – for god’s sake he could have just told people to read the bible and said, ‘that’s what i believe!’ but instead he went on to equate homosexuality to swindlers drunks and terrorists.

    if you’ve chosen to believe in this religion (as i’m sure you intensely examined every other religion in the world before picking THIS one, and neither your parents nor the region of the world you grew up in had ANYTHING to do with that “decision” you so independently and analytically made) then that is on you. the blood from that book is now on your hands; you have to accept that message, warts and all. you can’t try and shift the blame to the holy spirit or the ‘word of god.’ you chose to believe it, you choose to talk about it out loud, so let’s not be childish. put your big kid pants on and own the responsibility that comes with spreading such a hateful, fear-based message.

    i for one support A&E’s decision: in the face of bigoted, angry christians who say they’ll stop watching and their ratings will plummet, they still chose to do the right thing.

    • Jordan

      December 21, 2013 at 6:38 pm

      Thank you for reading my blog and taking the time to comment.

    • Jordan

      December 22, 2013 at 4:40 am

      Justn – I am sorry you felt like you had to respond to my post in an aggressive way. Knowing this is, in fact, a controversial topic I do not expect everyone to agree with what I have to say; However, I did my best to convey my message in a respectful way and it would be nice for others to respond in the same manor. I am always open to others who disagree with me because I see it as a learning experience. If you do happen to ever read another one of my blogs or leave a comment, please know I will gladly receive an opposing view, but know you can do it in a tactful way. I will openly discuss why and how we both came to the conclusions we did, even if we disagree.

      • Brandon

        December 22, 2013 at 6:53 am

        Justin is absolutely right. Christians have a habit…or rather, the NERVE, to try and turn the tables and say THEY are being discriminated against. THEY are facing bigotry and intolerance. I mean, really? A Christian declaring someone’s life is clearly defined as immoral according to their book of stories is, in fact, bigoted. Your faith and beliefs don’t give you a free pass to be passive aggressive to gay people by saying things like “love the sinner, hate the sin”. A gay person, or ANYONE for that matter, who doesn’t practice your religion and is deeply offended by your remarks, whether they’re from you for bible quotes, is not being bigoted. They’re being defensive, and rightfully so. When they ask for equal rights, they are not being intolerant of your faith. They want you to keep your faith out of their lives and laws. We say you’re free to continue believing what you wish, live and let live. Fundamentalist Christians are saying that gay people, who are complete strangers to them, shouldn’t be allowed to have equal rights. THATS intolerance.

        Christians need to stop playing victim. I agree that they have been receiving more backlash in recent years, and I say it’s about time. The majority or Americans are sick of them trying to push religious rhetoric into the government.

        • Jordan

          December 23, 2013 at 11:55 pm

          Brandon – I appreciate your reply, but by just reading your first sentence I cringe. Are you not aware of the battle Christian’s are facing around the world – not just the USA? There was just a massacre in Syria; the largest recorded in this day. And may I add, it is not because of the controversy with homosexuality. I for one, as a Christian, do not have a problem with the GLBT community asking for equal rights. And, I know it goes beyond just asking for the right to marry. If the state wants to allow homosexual marriages, again fine, but the Church should still have the freedom to deny a marriage that is contrary to their beliefs. As far as your remark that Christians are trying to push religion into the government, I don’t find that confusing – Biblical principals were what our country was built on and I would consider it is what made us thrive. The more we push God out of our day-to-day operations the more things seem to unravel.

  4. Nash

    December 22, 2013 at 4:33 am

    Glad to come across this via Derek’s tweet. I share your side in terms of faith. I believe gay rights activists are more fundamental than Christians these days!

  5. Aaron

    December 22, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Great article and written very well! I completely agree with ya.

  6. TSM

    December 24, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    Thank you for the best article yet on this subject. The truth that sincere people can abhor the sin of homosexuality and yet love those who claim to be homosexual, may be unfathomable to those who can’t distinguish between love and lust.
    Some of the comments here reveal some deep torment and hopelessness among the writers. I hope this swirling debate may cause them to reexamine their lives, seek changes that will replace the emptiness with wholeness

  7. TSM

    December 24, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    …(continuation) Inside them. The fickleness of organizations, such as GLAAD, that are more interested in causes than people will not bring comfort or calm. Christ does, has and will if people are willing to seek. Like Phil Robertson has said, one doesn’t have to be perfect, just willing to change, seek the will of God and try to live by it. Then life starts to become much more fulfilling- and I don’t mean financially. I really hope some who have posted here can open their eyes to find the real joy and peace that’s likely missing within.
    The Robertsons are the kind of folks I’d love to have as friends.

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